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Gosh,
November is less than 3 months away! My wife and I were chatting about the elections. She laughed at Art's comment that McCain is the best democrat in the bunch. I think the abortion issue has really pushed me over the edge to one candidate. Different from many other elections, I think the VP slot will make a bigger difference than it has in past years.

Who will be the best VP choice for McCain?
Who will be the best VP choice for Obama?

I'm thinking.

chip.

Obama: I think the avuncular Joe Bidon is his best bet. He could be Obama's Dick Cheney. To run with any non-Hillary woman would be political suicide—to run with Hillary would be plain suicide!!! Richardson might help bring in the Hispanic vote. Obama desperately needs that. Obama’s hyper-pro-choice stance may wound him with the pro-family Catholics of which there are many Hispanics.

McCain: I must admit I like Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. She has the charisma JM needs. She is unashamedly pro-life. She is pro-home-oil too. She could inspire women to get out and vote. The other is Huckabee. He is a great debater. I think he and JM make good medicine. Kerry does not like Romney at all. There is nothing she likes about him. She said it’s not even his religion but she senses that same disingenuous, untrustworthiness Bill Clinton had. I trust Kerry’s instincts. I do think Lieberman would be a train-wreck--might as well hand over the presidency to the Democrats in a gift bag. McCain needs to throw social conservatives a real bone. To nominate a pro-choice candidate is very risky, especially with his record.

You heard it here first!
Al Gore is Obama's VP.
It doesn't matter who McCain's is.
Praying I'm wrong
love,
Art

You heard it here first!
Al Gore is Obama's VP.

We respect the "Father of Our Country"; shouldn't we respect the "Father of the Internet" too?
Where would Beacon Churches be w/o Algore?

Man; BO just chose Biden as his running mate. Biden is a shark and can make mincemeat out of McCain; never mind McCain's incipient VP pick.

Whom would you choose if you were JM?

I think Huckabee could handle Biden in a debate. Huckabee is smooth, funny, passionate, has a moral core, and overall can probably handle Biden as good as anyone. In the old cowboy movies the bad guy had the black hat and the good guy had the white hat. I think Huckabee would have the appearance of being the good guy against the brash, sassy Biden (don't stretch that black/white hat metaphor too far).

I retract my Sarah Pallin name for Republican Veep. She can't stand against Biden. TX Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison might be the better pick. She has that Huckabee likeability, she has some years in the Senate and knows Joe's record well, she can help deliver the South as a strong GOP red-stater, and best of all, she may stir-up the female vote. BO lost a lot by picking a non-Hilary running mate. Some of those supporters are unhappy. I'm just not sure if Kay BH is pro-life or not.

Believe me--I would rather have seen Al Gore as running mate. McCain could have beaten him. I desperately want to see a black Prez, just not Obama. Obama is wrong on so many issues including life-issues; marriage; foreign affairs; economy; and putting air in tires to fix the gas problem.

IMHO, I think the Democratic Party should switch BO and JB. It will probably be the same with JM and his running mate too. *sigh*
chip.

Biden's coming out party was in Abe Lincoln country--Springield, IL. It was just ok. There was a great freudian slip when Obama introduced him as, "The next ‘President’ of the United...er uh..Next ‘Vice’President of the United States, Joe Biden!" I'm not sure how forgiving Network media would have been if JM had made that gaff.

Biden is tough. He has sung McCain's praises even to the point of being willing to run with him. There are other great sound bytes where he has dissed BO saying the “US presidency can not afford for on-the-job training”. He has 6 terms as Senator. There were some judicial nominations where he talked the whole time without even asking a question of the candidate. This goes against Obama's climate for Washington change. 36 years is a lot of video tape to use, especially with JB.

Having said all that, Biden presents "gravitas" for the Obama admin. He is a Scranton, PA native, a big state needed to win the election. He will tout his being a Catholic, an area needed to help offset the abortion issue, and finally, Joe is a "Good-Joe"; he's a regular guy. He looks like he could work for the local fire dept or run a line in a steel mill. Obama doesn't. BO has the air of an affluent, elite liberal.

Time will tell if Biden's verbal snafus will seem cute or devastating to a potential Obama presidency. Also, Clinton's supporters seem peeved she was never vetted for the position. Let’s see how that plays too.

Thanx Joe; this race may not be so dull after all.

chip.

artjaggard wrote:You heard it here first!
Al Gore is Obama's VP.
It doesn't matter who McCain's is.
Praying I'm wrong
love,
Art

Isn't there something about stone prophets who get it WRONG!! Oh, yeah, you did not say "thus saith the LORD!"

Love you Art even when you are WRONG!!

Ralph, let's wait till January to deal with Art. Can't count how many time I have been stoned outside the gate. After a while you get used to it.
Beside, the elections aren't over:
1) John McCain could pick Al Gore
2) Joe Biden could be disqualified
3) Hillary could steal the nomination an choose Algore
3) Rev. Jeremiah Wright could run as a 3rd Party candidate as a vendetta against Obama and run with Al Gore. Have you ever heard Al hoop his politics? He sounds like an old school preacher.

Don't be so quick to stone Beacon prophets--it's still early
chip.

Art and Ralph wrote:

Al Gore is Obama's VP...Praying I'm wrong

This may rub some of the hyper-calvinists the wrong way but, maybe Al's "election" isn't as sure as Art's "prayers".
Hmmm...

I have often watched Biden at Senate hearings - He is obnoxious, rude and ill mannered. I would not vote for him if he were a staunch Republican conservative, and I do not see him as lending gravitas to the Democratic ticket but instead the presence of a school-boy bully personality.

Dennis of the far northeast.

Dennis of the Northeast,

You said what I felt from the minute Obama announced he'd picked Biden.

© 2008 WorldNetDaily


Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.

Presumed Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama has chosen for his running mate Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., a man who once proposed the bottom half of the Democratic presidential ticket would best be filled with an unusual selection: Republican John McCain.

In two separate television interviews in the spring of 2004, Biden suggested the best way to bring unity to a divided nation was for the then-Democratic presidential candidate, John Kerry, to select McCain as his running mate.

"I think John McCain would be a great candidate for vice president. I mean it. I know John doesn't like me saying it, but the truth of the matter is, it is," Biden told Tim Russert of NBC's "Meet the Press."

I so often get things wrong. And my hunch about Gore is not much more implausible now than it was pre Biden. Still, with Clintons in the mix Gore could be a compromise in a bitterly divided convention. I'm going to wait and see. (I guess we all are).

In any event, I still think the best democrat in the race is McCain. I think Biden thinks so too. And if McCain continues to float the idea of a Democrat (albeit not a Clintonista) for VP the choice this year may be between a radical democrat and a moderatly liberal democrat unless we vote Green or Libertarian. (I'm going with Bab Barr, but no surprise there).

Since they released all the MI & FL delegates, Whose to say that Hillary won't be nominated?

She could just take it away from BO
Razor

Democratic Convention:
Michelle Obama did an ok job the other night. I heard a commentator reflect how she became a "Stepford Wife". After her speech you would think she was a die-hard Republican. All of the values she exemplified were what may GOP'ers strive for. If she really spoke out to what they are passionate, they certainly would lose the election. The most important thing she said was "I love America". This helped heal the bruises from her saying, "For the 1st time in my adult life I'm actually proud to be an American".

Hillary did a good job. She mentioned BO about 8 times. She never really went on to why he is the right guy for the job--afterall--she is a Clinton, but she did at least say let's rally around the candidate. If he and Joe lose, she is perfectly positioned for 2012 (maybe Jesus will return by then).

Tonight President Clinton speaks. He has been given the topic of "National Security". He wanted “the economy”; we'll see how he handles it. There’s tons of acrimony between the Obamanations and the Cintonians. Wonder if Bill will throw a mini-olive branch or make Obama's head spin. Michelle has a hard time hiding her emotions; let's see her expressions.


Any thoughts whom McCain may pick? Who would be his best choices?
chip.

President Clinton did exceptionally well last night. It was short, sweet, and affirming to the ticket. I may not agree with his own perceptions of the past, present, and future of his legacy, but he did energize the room.

This will be a tough act to follow even for the messianic Obama. He's supposed to speak in an adjacent football stadium to thousands. Some think it better if he speak at an elementary school or with a local union. I do too. His rock star image raises an uncomfortable eyebrow with people paying 4 dollars a gallon for out-sourced gas while looking at the Cold War getting warm again.

Kudos to Billary; let's how Joebama does tonight (ok, Obidin!) .

chip